I cannot, for the life of me, understand why being a feminist is encouraged and recommended, but being a man and fighting for men's issues is horrible and disgusting and awful.
I have faced so much backlash and hatred for calling myself an MRA, and I simply can't understand it.
Men face issues too, and I am absolutely not saying that my issues are somehow worse than women's issues, but there needs to be two sides to every coin, right?
Also if I were to say it weren't okay I'd be a pretty big hypocrite considering I've been posting info on my book there XD
Lol yes, the creativity section is for promoting anything creative, talking about art, discussing art forms, debating what is and isn't art etc etc.
If you've made it with your own hands or sung it with your own voice, it's free game.
Guess I probably should've asked that question myself before I went and did it. xD
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet LOL. I'll prolly write when finals and whatnot are over. Also am I allowed to moderately-promote my music in the creativity section? Lol.
Lol, so long as you're not promoting the literal genocide of non-whites, (or anything illegal for that matter,) you're good.
Probably a cl0ne O_o
Oh my god, Hetero Sapien. I think we're the same fucking person. xD
Sweet great :) But I can post like completely crazy ass shit, hyper hyper hyper far left communisto schizophrenic type shit on here without repercussion and rant against Capitalism as much as I like right? LOL. Just need to make sure :3
Good question, Hetero Sapien. I'll be posting a page featuring in depth regulations soon, I'm trying to get the basic thoughts in order at the moment and getting some input on them. The basic rules to follow are to not insult anyone needlessly (i.e, calling them stupid, evil, or disgusting) and not to harass anyone (constantly raid their posts and target them in a hateful way.)
A good way to look at it is basically just treat everyone with respect, even if you disagree with their opinions. You can state anything you want to and speak your mind freely.
Should it ever come to the point where someone seriously violates the basic principles, I'll shoot them an email to try and counsel them. If they refuse to stop, I'll have to terminate their account.
I'm trying to be both reasonable with the regulations, but not become an overlord. I want this to be a free, safe, fun, knowledgeable place for everyone.
Absolutely agree mate. Male victims of sex abuse are completely ignored by feminism and everyone else, as if it's non-existant. I still get comments like "Men can't be raped" and whatnot. Men sex abuse victims that are screamed at being called sexists and rapists. I mean wtf. If I screamed at a female rape victim/feminist "You're a sexist and a rapist" I'd be stoned to death in the streets, literally (and I mean ACTUALLY literally).
Btw idk if this is the right place to post this but what exactly are the rules/limitations of this site?
I love Shoe0nHead, her impression of "the Patriarchy" gets me dying of laughter every time she puts that Trump mask on and runs around screaming XD, I love that girl.
She's where I discovered that film too, a little after a week after she posted her review, I rented it on Google play (they were having a special on rentals I believe, so I figured "why not?") and watched it in pieces throughout the day. I absolutely loved it and started watching some interviews with Carly Jaye, the creator of it. She's a very sweet, logical, and incredibly humble person, and I admire the journey she took with this film.
If you get the chance, do watch it. I wouldn't wait for it to be on Netflix or Hulu, (I could be wrong, I'd liked to be proved wrong on this at least) but with such a backlash and attempts at silencing the film, I don't see that happening soon. But who knows, maybe if enough people ask for it, they will stream the documentary!
I saw ShoeOnHead's review of The Red Pill, and I've wanted to watch it every since. <3 Haven't gotten around to it yet, though. I'll definitely be checking it out soon.
And I'm glad you're no longer angry the way you used to be. It's pretty easy to be passionate about something. It's much more difficult to try to understand your own motives for particular behaviors, and whether those behaviors and motives are good, or bad, or healthy or not. It takes courage and compassion towards yourself, and it's wonderful that you've taken a step towards understanding and away from all the calamity. We all try to take another of those steps each day, I think. That's why we're here.
I have no issues with feminists, I use to, sadly, be ultra against them though. Back in my days of super Meninism and MGTOW nights, I would shut down any woman soon as she told me she was a feminist.
I was a very angry person back then.
Then I realized I really wasn't being fair. If I shut down women as soon as they told me they were feminists, then I wasn't leaving room for a discussion or dialogue, to occur. It's counter productive, and I was no better than a woman shutting me down for being an MRA.
I find the MRA label holds a lot less heat than MGTOW does, and I'm glad I left, although I do still converse with the community at times. They're just so angry though, it really brought me down. MRA's seem to really be fighting for something.
I decided to become and MRA after watching the Red Pill, a documentry ironically made by a feminist about the MRA movement, what it's accomplishing, and what it hopes to do. That movie got so much unneeded hatred in it's beginning, but it did something very important, it opened the doors for a discussion between feminists and MRA's, hoping to come to an understanding in the middle. Beautiful, and I was blown away by how many feminists did end up supporting the movie and changing their views a bit from it.
What's your opinion on the egalitarian label? I know it's more of a "humanitarian" definition since it encases all genders and races, but I hear quite a few liberals use the term when they don't want to call themselves feminists, and conservatives use it when they don't want people to immediately think "racist bigot."
Regardless, happy to have you on the FF ship, lol.
Ah, I can hear them now: "A feminist is a feminist is a feminist." xD I was thinking more like an entirely different term, one that doesn't lean towards either gender just by its label or lexicon. Still, if I were to label myself anything, "Freedom Feminist" sounds good to me for now.
Ever since I heard the term Freedom-Feminist, I've found myself aligning more with that state of mind.
The most popular freedom feminist I can think of is Christina Hoff Sommers. If you haven't heard of her yet, she wrote a book called the War on Boys, which discusses how schooling for young children is set in such a way the girls learn better than boys (not that this is the intention, but it brings out how boys are rowdier, less willing to sit still than girls, and instead of teachers forming new ways of teaching the boys, they scold them for behaving that way.)
Although I prefer not to label myself as anything, since there will always be that one person shouting "go to hell you [MRA] [feminist] [anti-feminist] [SJW] [egalitarian] [activist]," if I absolutely had to call myself anything, it would be Freedom Feminist.
Not that I'm trying to encourage you to switch labels, I always get to know the person before judging them on a label since labels don't always define your truest views, but that's what I've found fits me, and from what you have said, I agree pretty heavily with you.
I've been very, very ashamed to call myself a feminist. When people hear the word, they think "man-hater, gender-wage-gap-believer, misandrist, regressive, etc." People laugh and scoff at the idea that feminism is about equality between men and women, as even in the name it seems to only promote women while attempting to smother men. And people are very well-justified in attaching these things to feminism, because this is what feminism has become, and maybe it's what it always was. I'm not educated well enough on its history and its flaws from even then to have a valid opinion on what it started out as.
But someone I knew described feminism like this:
Feminists (the "real" kind (please excuse my no-real-scotsman fallacy, just bear with me)), deeply care about men's rights as well as women's rights, and my friend illustrated this point beautifully. This person described how very toxic toxic masculinity truly is, and how it lends itself to the attempted oppression of women, but also the oppression of men. Words like "pussy," "bitch," "twat," "cunt," "you hit/throw/act like a girl," etc., these are thrown into the faces of men and boys early on, and the subliminal message is: femininity = inferiority. It's subconscious, yes, but it's still there. And my friend argued that if we were to uplift and empower women so much that men didn't feel women were inferior or weak, then men also would not receive abuse from other men. The cycle of abuse for both genders (at least the abuse that comes from men) would cease if the one made out to be inferior actually turned out to be as strong and as respected as the other. There would be nothing for toxically masculine men to compare inferiority to, at least not in reference to women or femininity, therefore also relieving not-so-masculine men (and just men in general) from the pressure to be very masculine so as not to appear weak/inferior.
The problem, of course, is potential entitlement on the females' part. They begin to think they are not only equal to men, but that perhaps men should know how it feels to be the inferior gender for a change. I'm not saying this is right to think, just that the "logic" of it is consistent. And this, sadly, is the faction of feminists that get the most attention. These are the kinds of people others think of when they hear the term "feminist."
So I understand how you feel. When people think of MRA, they think of misogynists, abusers, and men who feel they deserve special attention like women get. Thing is, these things are much more rare in MRA factions than the myth-believing, aggressive factions of feminists. Feminists are responsible for the mislabeling of MRA members. They feel that these are just more men that want to oppress women. Why else, they ask, would men feel the need to draw attention away from women's issues and toward's men's issues (issues that these women feel are non-existent, no less)?
Personally, I want a new term. I want something that encapsulates gender-specific issues (unlike something broad like "humanist") for both men and women, acknowledging that both face their own problems, and that these problems can and do overlap. Maybe that term already exists, but I haven't heard of it if so. Sigh.
Anyway. I call myself a "feminist," but it's basically a derogatory term in intelligent circles at this point. So I think I can understand at least a little of how you feel when addressing yourself as someone who feels the same way about gender-specific issues, only on the other side of them.